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> 1993 22re To 1989 22r Engine Swap
Rob Mercure
post Sep 23 2009, 11:13 AM
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Howdy folks,

I hope this is kosher as I've posted most of this information in the newbie introduction area.

In 1989 I bought a cardinal red Toyo P/U with the extended cab, 5-sp trans., and 22R engine - not 22RE. This old gal took me from Mexico to Newfoundland and accumulated almost 450K miles until felled by a faulty front mail seal in heavy interstate traffic that didn't give me time enough to pull off and shut down the engine. She had already gone through 3-4 front main seals and was on the second transmission.

I had intended to rebuild this engine until illness almost felled me so instead I picked up a 1993 silver Toyo short with a 22RE and 5 speed (I also had another 1989 P/U with an AT that I was going to use for parts but it broke the #1 con-rod which knocked silver dollar sized holes in each side of the block - supposedly this truck had less than 100K but I think I was a victim of speedo roll back once I really examined it after the engine lunched - the frame had a hole I could put my fist through). This truck, which grew up further North, unfortunately has a frame that looks like it was attacked by termites and I bought it for the engine which I intend to put in the 1989 truck.

So here are the questions:
Would it be easier to convert the 1989 truck to EFI or to simply install the 1989 carb manifold on the 1993 EFI engine?
If converting to EFI what is necessary besides altering the fuel system, ECU, and coil/distributor?
Will the 1993 EFI ECU work in the 1989 or would the 1989 EFI/AT ECU work with a manual tranny?

Also: I'm quire aware of the problem of timing chain guides wearing out and then chain slop wearing a hole in the timing chain cover - I reinforced the area with epoxy/steel mesh when I rebuilt the 1989 22RE head and installed it on the 22R block when the head gasket blew around 410K. Was this problem fixed by 1993 cuz if not I may wind up pulling the timing chain cover when I do the engine swap and checking the chain guides and cover. But since I'm still recovering from illness some of this work I may farm out so if I can just keep the 1993 engine intact I'd like to do so - according to notes in the truck's owner's manual the 1993 engine was rebuilt around 230K and it only has around 30K on is since the rebuild.

Thanks for any and all help and I hope that I can perhaps provide some help to others particularly those interested in rebuilding starters and alternators and other electronics issues.

Rob
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rusty ol 83
post Nov 2 2009, 09:56 PM
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to start in my opionion i would never trade fuel injecton for carb. so many problems were fixed with efi ex vapor lock. also as far as i know n have herd it is not possible to convert a carb engine over to fuel injected. if i am wrong about that id sure like to know because my carb 22r has some very annoying problems that dont exist fo efi vehicles
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ccmusser
post Nov 19 2009, 11:47 PM
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If the original pickup is a 89 then the engine should be fuel injected anyways....... So there should be no problem because the pickup did not change from 89 to 85
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Toyota_mike
post Nov 30 2009, 05:47 AM
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Wow this forum is just rife with bad/misinformation. First it possible to have an 89 carb'd truck up to 94' actually. And it's very possible to swap an EFI motor into a non EFI truck. You'll need to obviously transplant the engine wire harness over to the new truck. If the dash and/or rear body harnesses are different you'll need to swap those in as well. This is really an easy swap since you have the doner truck right there and have all the parts you need. For anymore info try asking on nwtoys.com, they have a few actual Toyota certified mechanics on there.
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bernd
post Dec 15 2009, 07:10 PM
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+1 on the swap going the other way.. a friend and I swapped an '87 22RE motor into my '87 long bed which had the carb'ed 22R.
In hind sight, I would have tried to do the EFI, but I really just wanted to get the truck running again. Good luck, sounds like a great project.
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