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 Nov 14 2008, 02:11 PM
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A bit of an update on my situation: I took my 2003 Corolla with its growling manual transmission in to my local Toyota dealer. They looked a little further into the issue and discovered that while the entire transmission was not bad, the bearings for all five gears were disintegrating and needed to be replaced. The total cost for the transmission overhaul ended up being just a little bit more than the cost of a used replacement transmission, so I opted for it.
The most interesting part, however, is that when they ordered replacement bearings, they discovered that the new replacements are different, slightly beefier components than the original ones were. So there was obviously some design flaw in the original components that caused them to fail, thus the beefier replacement parts. They didn't phrase it as a "design flaw" of course, but the fact remains the same.
All in all, I spent about as much as I thought I would have to in order to get a used replacement tranny installed, and I get a nice 1-year Toyota Service warranty out of the deal this way. I am still out almost $1600, but hopefully this will allow my Corolla to go for another 100,000 miles before the engine gives out or something.
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Dec 2 2008, 01:17 AM
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Drives: 2003 Toyota Corolla CE
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I suspect something is not right about the transmission problems on my 5 speed 2003 Toyota Corolla CE that brought me to search and find this posts thru Google. I started feeling an exhaust or vibration type of noise while driving on higher speed. I complained about it to the Toyota dealer on two occasions and was told everything was normal. The noise started at around 150,000 kms.
It was until recently that two shops diagnosed a transmission noise. Before I could bring it in to a local Aamco shop, the transmission broke while I was driving on a highway (182,000 kms). I was able to exit until the gears would not shift anymore. Does it sound familiar?
It cost over $4100 for a rebuilt tranny and clutch repair. This is when I realized the noise that I was complaining before was caused by a failling tranny - because
the noise disappeared!!
I too have a 2001 Honda Civic (automatic) with 255,000 kms and no tranny problem whatsoever. As soon as I have a chance I will get rid of this lemon Toyota and get another Honda.
I just wish something can be done to expose this problem and possibly go after Toyota to accept responsibility.
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Dec 18 2008, 02:25 PM
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Drives: 2003 Toyota Corola S 5-Speed
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My Corolla had 60,000 miles on it and began making the growling noise heard commonly with this POS car. Of course after reading posts here, I took my car and ended up rebuilding the transmission and clutch. Unreal that this many people have had this problem and nothing has been done. We all need to join together and somehow get a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST TOYOTA going so we can all get what we deserve. I just cannot believe that a brand that is supposed to be so reliable has been so bad. My 1993 Honda would probably still be running better than this. Oh, but at least they recalled glass bolts in my power windows. Thanks!
Other problems I've had:
-Replace fried motor in passenger side power window.
-Malfunctioned rear right passenger lock (Car was broken into twice before i knew what was going on!)
-Check engine light on (for second time!)
We have to do something... please contact me via e-mail if interested.
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Jan 16 2009, 11:39 AM
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My corolla has less than 50000 miles on it and the transmission has to be replaced. We definitely need to know if others have this problem.
Lb
lbarker@nj.rr.com
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Jan 20 2009, 06:28 PM
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My orgininal post from corolland.... what are we gonna do about this guys? Is the class action lawsuit plausible? QUOTE My wife drives the 03 corolla s... I have been lurking on the site for a while, but now I need help. I drive a slightly modified 92 honda prelude. She was in an accident almost 2 years ago (a WEEK after I bought her the car)... at about 60,000 miles. After that we had a slight grind between gears and the dealership (who we will NEVER go to again... long story) replaced the master and slave cylinders (which were fine) before deciding it was the clutch. They replaced the clutch (after shifting without using the clutch... grrr....) Anyway, we took a long trip to Ohio (I drove most the way, and drive the car regularly), and on the way back it started making a "chatter" that we thought might be an engine noise... it only happens when you are giving it gas, and it is currently intermittent (but getting worse). You could maybe call it a "tick" or almost a "gargle" sound... it does not make the noise in neutral if you rev the car up... So, I took it to our trusted mechanic and he says that he believes it could once again be the clutch (after only 24,000 miles! and my wife and I have beat on the prelude for years... no problems... we know how to drive it). He says maybe the dealership made the flywheel too thin when they turned in last time, or that there was a faulty part (spring?) that is causing the clutch to wear quickly and maybe unevenly... He said it could be the bearing in the front of the tranny (and could require a rebuild), but he is leaning toward the clutch... When we bought the car, there was a hole in the driver side mat; like some ***** drove it with stiletto heels on... and they must have ridden the heck out of it to kill it so quickly. Anyway (sorry about the book)... The mechanic is taking the clutch out tomorrow so he can say for sure what the issue is, and if I need a clutch I plan on using ebay... I am careful there... I am leaning toward a rhino pac clutch that inlcudes the PILOT BEARING... over a sachs that does not... I trust both these brands... Also, has anyone used "gripforce" clutches? They claim they are made by high quality OEM clutches (Exedy, Sachs, Valeo, etc....). I think I will avoid them for now as the rhino pac with pilot bearing is a better deal... So, does anyone have experience with a similar problem, and can anyone offer advice on which clutch is preferable? Thanks for your help! p.s. there is also a "stage 1 123clutch" that claims to be more durable than stock... and they have perfect feedback... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...T&viewitem=Thanks again followup: QUOTE My mechanic took the clutch out and discovered that the release bearing had gone bad... I hope that is the entire problem; I guess we will see... I decided to replace the entire clutch assembly but leave the flywheel for now... datsa gave me a good site to check out, but it scares me a bit because the following line it the most like what we were experiencing...
"If you hear growling or grinding noises when the clutch is engaged, the cause is the transmission input shaft bearing."
I'm hoping for the best as I really don't want to have to take it all out again to have a much more major repair...
SO, from you guys experience, could the release bearing cause that "growl" or "chatter" I heard when the clutch was engaged? AND with 84,000 miles on the car, is it a good idea to leave the flywheel since it is still good? and finally after I found this thread...: QUOTE Now for the update... I haven't picked the car up yet, but after replacing the clutch it seems there is still a problem (the release bearing was bad... I looked at it; when you turned it, it would grind a little and was not smooth as silk like the new one)... however, the mechanic said there is still some noise... INPUT SHAFT BEARING IN THE TRANNY if other peoples experiences serve me correct!!!! REBUILD, SALVAGED TRANNY, OR SELL THE AMERICAN MADE P.O.S.? Any opinions... I guess I didn't get a lemon, looks like toyota won't back their own products anymore.... check this out... http://www.toyotafans.net/2003-corolla-tra...ssion-t3022.htmI bought the car because I had 2 POS chyslers... Now I have one POS toyota instead... I love my prelude............................................. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK I SHOULD DO? |
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Feb 2 2009, 09:42 PM
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So... my clutch has been replaced (again) as the release bearing was bad... but there is still a growl/chatter from the tranny... this only happens when the car is in gear and moving (clutch fully engaged... pedal out...). If I put the car in neutral and rev the engine I do not hear the noise... can it still be the input shaft bearing, or could there be another problem (the pilot bearing was replaced too)??????????? I thought you should hear the noise in neutral if you revved the engine if it was the input shaft bearing.
Thanks!
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Feb 10 2009, 07:29 PM
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Don't all speak at once!!! I guess there's not a d*mn thing we can do at this point... Toyota has disappointed me profoundly...
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Feb 15 2009, 06:54 PM
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Got rid of the Corolla. We are really happy with the decision so far... Focus ST is sportier than the Corolla S (engine and handling) and has done well in reviews... We take great car of our cars and look forward to seeing how this one does over the long run... Review: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_li..._take_road_testGave up on the American-made Japanese cars and decided to try a Mexican-made American car. We test drove the ST and decided to trade the corolla for it. We have 3years/70,000 miles left on the warranty and these things have been getting good reports... They also gave us a great deal on our trade... It's Loaded. I think there's as aspect of European styling to it and I'm quickly becoming a fan... We'll be careful to avoid speeding tickets with the bright red! It seems very nice. Added refinement over the Corolla and better road feel. I'm hoping for 33mpg vs Corolla's 37... but the power is nice. sport tuned suspension (independent front and rear) Performs great. Surprisingly little understeer; sportier than the Corolla S (with it's silly rear suspension) 2.3L Duratec Mazda-based engine 151 bhp @ 5750 rpms 154 ft/lb @ 4250 rpms Has a satisfying and drivable powerband. Decent low-end, and no need rev it too high. (IMG: http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/05zx4_st_1-1.jpg)
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Feb 23 2009, 09:19 AM
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Well it looks like I'm another lucky one. The clutch and transmission went on my 5 speed 2003 Corolla.
On Christmas Day I was driving on the highway doing about 90 km/hour in 5th gear and I heard a big bang and my car stopped working. I had it towed to the dealership where they ended up telling me that it was my clutch. Ok- $1100.00.
Oops- It gets fixed and then it's still not working. Oh wait, it's the transmission. Another $2000.00.
So I get the final bill: $3757.82.
This car had 136 939 kms on it, hardly a lot for a Corolla.
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Feb 23 2009, 08:42 PM
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^sorry man, the focus ST is working out nicely so far....
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Feb 23 2009, 11:43 PM
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I understand how you feel . I suggest that you find a good transmission shop that has a very good knowledge on manual trans .cause putting in a used one you will eventually has the same problem . You need to put updated parts in your screwed up one . Then you should have a tranny that will provide thousands of miles with no troubles.
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Feb 25 2009, 07:56 PM
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Did they ever actually make parts that were worth putting in the thing? I was not aware of this...
thanks!
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Mar 20 2009, 02:20 PM
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sounds like these trannys of the newer years really suck. total dissapointment. next time it will be a honda
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Mar 31 2009, 11:18 AM
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We have a 2005 Toyota Corolla with 94,000 miles. I noticed the same sound click, click, or even kind of a rattle. Only when using the gas, if the clutch was in or in neutral it did not make this sound. The car also had to be in motion to hear the sound. The Toyota shop said the transmission was bad and needed to be replaced. Thank GOD we bought the 100,00 mile warranty. Toyota is replacing the transmission with a new Toyota transmission. I am also going to replace the clutch. The service manager said I would have to pay for the clutch parts but not the labor since the transmission is already going to be out. The cost of the transmission to be replaced for the parts would have been $2,700.00 and $800.00 for labor. The Toyota clutch kit from will cost $200.00, but no labor fee. That saves another $500.00. I am really disappointed in Toyota, but this the only service we have had done. Just wished it would have lived up to the Toyota reputation. Any questions just ask. I wish everyone the best of luck.
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Apr 1 2009, 11:40 AM
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I think I'm just going to e-mail and call Toyota every day and hopefully if a few hundred people happened to do this every day that they would get annoyed and do something. Wishful thinking I know, but hey, I sunk $2500 into this stinking car and daily e-mails and phone calls are worth it if I happened to get refunded. Cheers!
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Apr 4 2009, 04:05 PM
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I am the original owner of a 2003 Corolla with a 5spd manual transmission. I have personally preformed all maintenance on the vehicle and exceeded the recommended service interval and used synthetic fluid exceeding the required standards. My car has 147k miles and the transmission growls in all 5 gears. (not the gear whine while in reverse due to the straight cut gears).
The noise started as a slight roughness in 3rd gear, and for about the last 20k miles occasionally the third syncro would allow some gear clash. The noise has been getting progressively worse for the last 10k miles. It is now the same in all 5 gears under positive AND negative load (the growl goes away if feathering the throttle to remove the load). About 3k miles ago i changed the fluid not because it was time to, but because i wanted to inspect for metal chunks (none found -- only a light black dust on the drain plug -- no shavings in the oil).
We are on a business trip in Colorado, and took it to a Toyota dealer in Greeley -- they said worst case it will cost $3800 to replace the transmission with a new one, and another $270 to also replace the clutch at the same time.
After seeing from all the posts on this forum that this is most likely a design issue -- i called Toyota CS at 800-331-4331, and they denied any design flaws and said there was no recall or replacement assistance program-- but gave me a case number (0904105149), saying that i would be reimbursed IF any program would develop in the future.
I purchased this car because i was assured that it would last at least 300k miles if i took care of it. I am VERY disappointed in Toyota for not owning up to what is obviously (from a basic Google search) a design flaw with this otherwise wonderful car. I have had a few Toyotas, this is my first new one -- and likely my last one. I am looking to trade for a new Honda, or perhaps a Versa.
For the record i do not abuse my car -- as evidenced by the OEM tires lasting 50k miles, and my 1st set of Yokohama tires lasting 90k miles -- also still have 25% brake linings left on the OEM brakes. The engine burns no oil -- and runs like new -- fuel economy is down to about 36-37 from an average of 38 over the first 125k miles.
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May 28 2009, 09:02 AM
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BROTHER !! We are related in our problem ! I have a 2003 Corolla CE ( 175,000 on O.D. ) 5 spd manual, with this growl that starts at 20+ mph and the growl disappears while in turns .. My local dealership has failed.. there guess work cost me $360.00 in new tires , only to have the same problem. Am taking it to a dealership with more hands ON monday .. My e-mail is Toolbag3000@aol.com PleAsE let me know your out-come . I will do the same for you.
Eric aka ski2001
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Jun 9 2009, 04:27 PM
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I too got the death rattle\growl from my 2003 toyota corolla s. It started light and got progressively worse for only 3000 miles or so. When the clutch pedal is down the noise stops, applying the gas in 4th and 5th gear causes the metalic sounding growl to intensify. Just for kicks I brought it to the local toyota dealer who told me the transmission bearings are gone...$3500 dollars. I was already expecting the bad news based on this forum. So I am now starting my search for a new car. I hate shopping for cars.
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Jun 15 2009, 01:28 PM
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et3: I have had the same problem occur exactly as you have said in the post yet i found metal shavings with the second tranny. Owner of 2003 Corolla S 5spd, been through 2 transmissions in 80k miles. Contacted Toyota USA to let them know of the issues but of course they were less than receptive. Currently car is in the shop having a new tranny installed.
Hopefully tranny number 3 gives me at least 10k miles so I can get rid of it...
Going straight back to BMW, gas is cheaper than constant big repair bills.
My regards to everyone else with these problems, and all i can say is look for the cheapest places for repairs.
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Jun 25 2009, 09:05 AM
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I'm looking @ buying a 2003 Corolla, 5spd with 101K miles on it. THIS thread has put some serious doubts in my mind. I test drove it, and it didn't have any unusual noises, and all gears (inc. reverse) were smooth. But I do NOT want to drop another $3K into it 6 mos down the road. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/s10.gif) hmmm. i'm thinking the 01 VW TDI jetta is looking better & better.
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