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Feb 22 2001, 02:53 PM
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One good way I have found to get your Classic
Toyota Celica to stop better, this applies especially to
those who have OEM front brakes is to 1) use 1981
Toyota Celica semi-metallic brakes, they fit right in!
2) Peel back the front brake covers for more brake
cooling and attach a brake cooling duct to it and point
that at your rotor! 3) You can use the turn signal
holes for intakes to your brake cooling ducts. I
re-wired the white corner lamps to also blink using 1157
bulbs whenever I want to signal a turn. See default
album, front shot of '77 to see how car would appear
without turn signal lenses in the bumper.
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Feb 22 2001, 03:59 PM
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That's a good idea!!!<br>In my 1980 Celica Rally
car, I am using an<br>"A" arm from a Cressida, they
are longer and it offset the camber in my rally
suspension. Anyway,<br>I am also using the rotors from the
cressida and<br>they are bigger and better. They have a
cooling fin in the middle of the rotor.
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Feb 23 2001, 08:07 AM
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Hmmm...sounds interesting! Front brake rotors and
calipers from a Cressida? Do these bolt right in? What
year Cressida? This is worth checking out! Thanks for
the info. Always looking for bolt-in mod
possibilities.
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Feb 23 2001, 01:08 PM
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Models would be 1980-84, not sure but the newer
Cressida has the vented rotor and if you go to the junk
yard, might as well use the calipers.<br>It will cost
you to get the entire front struts including rotors
and caliper for around $25.00-<br>30.00<br>Tip on
transmission for 20R engine, you can also use a 1989 truck
transmission, it is more heavy duty and bolts right in. For
rear end, you can use the rear end (gear and pinion)
of an automatic transmission Celica..they are geared
better. <br>You can also use the limiterd slip
differential from 84 Celica GTS and Not the Supra. When in
doubt, bring your old one for a sample or get a receipt
for refund.
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Feb 23 2001, 07:15 PM
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Are you using stock calipers with the Cressida
rotors? I have done an MA60 brake upgrade in my RA29, but
I ended up using the struts and brakes and control
arms. I'm looking into doing some sort of upgrade for
my RA21, I remember some people had used RA29/40
struts in a RA21 before. Anyone care to elaborate on
what parts interchange and what happens to the track?
I'd like to not have the track increase anymore
because of wheel clearance, but I maybe able to take some
of it out by moving the whole strut inwards perhaps
with camber plates?
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Feb 23 2001, 07:32 PM
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I am using the calipers, brake dust plate,
rotors,<br>and even the A arm which is longer from the Cressida.
My class is restricted and not allowed to use camber
plates, having a longer arm compensates for the camber.
What kind of racing do you do??? If you need
clearance, I might have some ideas for you????
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Feb 23 2001, 09:37 PM
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I don't do any racing, I just keep tinkering with
cars and keep nickel and diming stuff which I'm
getting tired of. I'm going to stop buying cars and try
to get them all running! Anyhow I haven't caused the
brakes to fade yet, but from what I hear repeated stops
can cause the non-vented rotors to overheat a bit. I
can definately feel that braking is a little weak
just by changing from my stock 165-r14 tires to these
85-87? cressida rims which are 195/50-15 currently. What
year cressida stuff are you using and which year
celica did it go into? I'm thinking the camber plates
and or changing the length of the lower arm I should
still be able to tuck the cressida wheel under the
fender hopefully. These are currently pseudo/street
racecars and I like them low and firm, but I want them to
handle right of course. Still thinking I'll try
autocrossing soon, but I've been saying that for awhile. I'll
be way outclassed due to misc. mods, but that's OK
just want to do it for fun and if I'm ever serious I'd
build a car around class rules. Currently I had to
extend the lower arm on my MA60 strut upgrade to
compensate for some positive camber, using camber plates in
conjunction to get it back to ~-.5 deg or so. That car (RA29)
was riding fine, but it seemed to do some weird stuff
over tight turns with bumps, but I'm working on some
strut blocks right now. Still I'm trying to get this
RA21 down with shortened struts since they are either
close to bottoming or are bottoming right now. And I
figure I might as well upgrade the brakes if there's
something I can throw in there. I wonder if the cressida
struts/brakes are real similar to the MA/RA60
stuff?<br><br>mike
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Feb 23 2001, 11:17 PM
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I am racing in the SCCA Pro rally and the
California rally series with my 1980 Celica GT. The car was
originally an automatic and I changed the tranny from an
1989<br>truck which is more heavy duty. My brake
system<br>(rotors, calipers,brake dust shield, etc) are from the
Cressida. I have a proportioning valve wherein, I can
adjust the brake pressure manually inside the car. In
rally we usually adjust the front less than the back
so, we won't lock up, similar to an ABS. Again, my
arms are from the Cressida but I did not use the
struts because they are longer and would cause bad
camber and handling.<br>For springs, I have TRD rally
springs combined with an Illumina adjustable shocks. This
works well because, you can adjust how the car handles
from over or under steering. Also change your
stabilizer bushing to the energy absorbing kind<br>(red in
color), you will be surpirsed on the difference in
handling. How did you lower your car??? You might have cut
the springs to short and messed up the spring rate or
play if you are getting bumps or bouncing. You can use
coil over kit to have an adjustable height in front to
lower or raise the car. I am using a Cusco tower brace
and you can use that to help your camber by setting
it as tight as you can, what it does is pull the
chassis together making it stiffer and flex less. I have
a full 8 point cage and what I did is weld the cage
to the pillars. The cage and the chassis becomes one
and stronger. For steering, I am using an TRD quick
steer box.<br>Anyway, you can see my car's pictures in
the Photo.
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Feb 24 2001, 01:38 AM
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labro, interesting stuff! Rally racing has always
interested me, just seems like the car would take quite the
beating! So the cressida rotors fit on the celica hubs
with no problems? Did they push the wheels out any
further? I think that RA40 struts will stick out some on
an RA21, but if it's within an inch, I could
probably adjust it out by using camber plates and if need
be shortening the lower arms assuming I have enough
negative camber. I do currently have a set of ground
control coilovers in the RA29, RA21 is just cut for now.
I really haven't seen that much adverse effects
from cutting springs, for sure the spring rate goes
up, but combined with the lower center of gravity it
seems to me that it ALWAYS handles better cut vs.
stock. Of course it would be proper to have it all
aligned and I haven't done enough real testing, but seat
of the pants I have to think that any mildly cut
spring will always perform better than a stock spring.
The MA60 struts I have in the RA29 have been
shortened and I am using Dodge Colt hatchback strut Koni's
that are ~2.5" shorter. I believe someone else was
using a VW Golf? shock in theirs and I'm planning on
shortening the RA21 struts <br>(maybe using RA40 struts?)
with a shorter shock. shox.com has some koni that is
13" long shell. I want to find something that can be
stiffer as I'm not sure the Koni reds I have are
controlling the 300lb springs up front which really don't
seem all that stiff (if it were to be road raced..
maybe about right for autocross..) And the ride isn't
bad at all. Oh BTW did you fab the cage or is there
one pre-made that fits well? Not sure it would fit
the RA29 the same or what, but I will be putting a
cage in that sometime I'm sure. Current plan is to
swap the 18RG into the RA21 after I get the bodywork
done and that will be the full interior vintage type
toy and to build an EFI boosted RG to put into the
RA29 to make it a little stripped down beastie..a
little later after I get some other cars running :P
Still I'd like to rebuild the front suspension on my
RA21 so it rides nice etcetc..
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