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> Having 380 Hp Is Not So Great If You Can't Get To The Ground., New Tundra's lack of a Automatic Locking Differential (or at least
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post Jun 23 2007, 12:20 PM
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If you live in a state where it snows or maybe has other natural (seasonal) events that could cause you to get stuck (it happens to almost everyone at one point or another) you might want to rethink your purchase of the new Tundra, as this video demonstrates.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=...annel=493148895
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post Jun 23 2007, 03:02 PM
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Ive seen the vid, and heres my take. Notice how much harder they hit the bank with the Chevy? They hit it so hard that the driver's side rear tire came off the ground.
The Toyota would have went though that no problem if they had only locked it into 4x4.
Also, a limited-slip diff comes standard on the Tundra, so I dunno what GM is talking about with their automatic rear locker claim.
One again, typical half-truth on GM's part. They will do anything to try to discredit Toyota, even if that means a smoke 'n mirrors campaign.
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post Jun 23 2007, 05:41 PM
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Repeatability is the key to any experiment.

This is only marketting.
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post Jun 24 2007, 06:38 AM
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Totally agree. Though I do like Chevy trucks, there is no proof that this commercial stunt could be repeated in real life. I can make a truck do anything I want it to do on TV, including climb a tree. That doesn't mean it would actually work.
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post Jun 24 2007, 11:35 AM
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Also, most people in that situation would lock the truck into 4x4.
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post Jun 26 2007, 07:20 PM
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What if you only have two wheel drive?
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post Jun 27 2007, 06:57 AM
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If ya only had 2 wheel drive, leave it on the pavement,,, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/harhar.gif)
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post Jul 1 2007, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE(prizmm @ Jun 27 2007, 07:57 AM) [snapback]6379[/snapback]

If ya only had 2 wheel drive, leave it on the pavement,,, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/harhar.gif)
my 2 cents worth


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HAHA... Well, I used to own a Silverado Z71 and let me tell you. Chevy ain't got nothing on Toyota AND my husband's cousin has a Tundra and we live in Southeastern Oklahoma. Do you know what we do for fun in Southeastern Oklahoma? We FOURWHEEL DRIVE ANYTHING!!! No Chevy ain't gonna out do Toyota. PERIOD. I ain't gonna say Chevy isn't pretty but that's what they do.. They look pretty and sit.. Toyota looks GREAT and PERFORMS!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/auto.gif) And that's my 2cents worth! LOL
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post Jul 1 2007, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(cassiem0221 @ Jul 1 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]6494[/snapback]

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HAHA... Well, I used to own a Silverado Z71 and let me tell you. Chevy ain't got nothing on Toyota AND my husband's cousin has a Tundra and we live in Southeastern Oklahoma. Do you know what we do for fun in Southeastern Oklahoma? We FOURWHEEL DRIVE ANYTHING!!! No Chevy ain't gonna out do Toyota. PERIOD. I ain't gonna say Chevy isn't pretty but that's what they do.. They look pretty and sit.. Toyota looks GREAT and PERFORMS!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/auto.gif) And that's my 2cents worth! LOL


Southeastern Oklahoma!?! Please I live in Northeastern Michigan, ever heard of a "lake effects" snowstorm, I have spent plenty enough time pulling out know it all's like you and their precious Tundras, Tacomas, etc. with my "pretty" (pretty!?!) Chevy Avalanche Z71.
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post Jul 1 2007, 07:25 PM
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To be fair, much of it is the drivers. Good drivers can get more out of a truck than someone who only thinks they know what they are doing>
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post Jul 3 2007, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(ACCER @ Jul 1 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]6538[/snapback]

To be fair, much of it is the drivers. Good drivers can get more out of a truck than someone who only thinks they know what they are doing>


True. Very, very true.
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post Jul 4 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Bakemono @ Jun 23 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]6245[/snapback]

Ive seen the vid, and heres my take. Notice how much harder they hit the bank with the Chevy? They hit it so hard that the driver's side rear tire came off the ground.
The Toyota would have went though that no problem if they had only locked it into 4x4.
Also, a limited-slip diff comes standard on the Tundra, so I dunno what GM is talking about with their automatic rear locker claim.
One again, typical half-truth on GM's part. They will do anything to try to discredit Toyota, even if that means a smoke 'n mirrors campaign.


A locking differential is not the same as a limited slip differential. In very low grip situations a locking diff is superior to a limited slip diff is superior to an open diff. The point of this demonstration was to show what Chevy can do in 2-wheel drive while the Tundra requires 4 wheel drive, therefore this is not a "half truth" or a "smoke and mirrors" campaign.
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post Jul 5 2007, 08:58 AM
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FToyota, say what you want, but Toyota has a legendary reputation for off-road capability than GM cant match.
Since you are obviously such a lover of GM products, perhaps you would be happier on a forum thats made for GM enthusiasts.
If you come here for the purpose of bashing Toyotas, save it because the powers that be here on TF wont stand for it.
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post Jul 5 2007, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Bakemono @ Jul 5 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]6611[/snapback]

FToyota, say what you want, but Toyota has a legendary reputation for off-road capability than GM cant match.
Since you are obviously such a lover of GM products, perhaps you would be happier on a forum thats made for GM enthusiasts.
If you come here for the purpose of bashing Toyotas, save it because the powers that be here on TF wont stand for it.


Yes it is obvious that I favor GM products (my father help build them for over 40 years, and I to am involved with a major parts supplier to GM), but I have sat and observed this site for ahwile and watched the "GM Bashing" go on for along time, I will play by the rules of the game and not curse or use sexual or profane material, but I WILL NOT KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT IF MY OPINION CONFLICS WITH YOURS, Toyotas are good vehicles but they are NOT the LEGENDARY vehichles you make them out to be, people don't write popular songs about them for instance (409, Little Red Corvette, GTO, American Pie, etc.), for the most part they are utillitarian tools that people have little to no passion about, and they certainly are not perfect, they are machines and they do break, or do we need to bring up faulty camshafts in 5.7 liter V8's or transmission problems in new Camry's (because I know you guys have a laundry list of all of GM's failing's some true some probably made up because of fanboy pride).
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post Jul 5 2007, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Bakemono @ Jul 5 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]6611[/snapback]

FToyota, say what you want, but Toyota has a legendary reputation for off-road capability than GM cant match.
Since you are obviously such a lover of GM products, perhaps you would be happier on a forum thats made for GM enthusiasts.
If you come here for the purpose of bashing Toyotas, save it because the powers that be here on TF wont stand for it.


I'm curious to know how you coulw/would qualify any of that as Toyota bashing... An opinion that goes against the grain and one who does not blindly follow/agree with the mentality of the group doesn't constitute bashing or *shudders, because I hate that "word"* a hater.
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post Jul 6 2007, 10:18 PM
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Well lets see, when someone puts up a thread like this with the intent of bashing Toyota, Id call them a hater.
FToyota, all Ive got to say is, "game on". I dont have a problem with you disagreeing, what I do have a problem with is when you come on here for no other reason than to bash Toyota.
You say that Toyotas arent the legendary vehicles that I think they are, yet if you go anywhere outside of North America, most of the trucks and 4x4s you see are Toyotas. GM, Ford and Dodge are nowhere to be found. Thats fact.
BTW, you say that you play by the rules, but you have already broken one of the rules. The rules clearly state no trolling.
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