Hey.<br>Not trying to start any domestic vs import crap here.Just had an idea, wanna know.<br>MKII Supra VS pre-90 Chevy Cavalier Z24 ( 2.8 V6 coupe)<br>Any experience, which is quicker in real life?<br>SHould be very equal,weight,power and engine size being about the same.

If you could find a Z24 that old that still runs without exploding I would still have to say the supra...LOL JK I dont know who would win I would say it depends on the driver most likly.

I used to put my 88 Turbo 2.2 liter Dodge Shadow up against those Z-24's on the highway quite often. They were spry little cars, but my Shadow would out power and out manuver them. My 4 cyl shadow made 148 hp, and the 90 2.8's are rated by Edmunds as 140 hp.<br><br>I raced anything that would go up against me in the late 80's early 90's and that Shadow was seldom beat. (Two times to be exact- I picked my battles pretty carefully, but that Grand national Buick that blew me away even surprised me with how fast it was) I litteraly used to wave bye bye to those 2.8 liter Chev engined Camaros, before I downshifted, got into the turbo and blew them off. <br><br>The Z-24's you're mentioning, especially the 2.8 jobs were quick and would run with me pretty well. But, true story, I got up behind one one night on the highway and topped out as fast as our cars would go, -fastest I'v eever driven in my life- I was still able to pull around him and go away. That class of car is not heavy, but not especially powerful, and that's where it gets it's speed. <br><br>The 2.2 liter Chryslers (based on the Mitsubishi engines) through those years- mostly put into the Shadows and the Omni GLH's- have a lot of zip and are still pretty impressive to drive today, especially if you tweak the timing just a little. But, like the Cavalier, these things are really just souped up economy cars, and they suffer for what they are when you're talking about top speed stuff.<br><br>That said, my 2.0 liter (not the 2.5 that got shipped to the USA) Twin Turbo MkII is way more powerful than my shadow ever was, especially when the turbos kick in. It IS heavier, I can feel that for sure, and longer, not as small and spry to slam around in traffic but my foot and the seat of my pants says it has WAY more balls at the upper limit. Out on the open highway in a top speed contest, I'm pretty sure the Supra would be way more settled and go a LOT faster.<br><br>The truth is, however, I'm not sure which I'd rather be driving against the other in a typical "real world" highway race. (relatively short distance- maybe two or three miles- usually first person to pull signifigantly away in the short haul backs off the gas as a winner) My Supra's an automatic trans job, and I have a hunch if I hit the shifts right in the Shadow, I'd surprise a Supra driver. It's possible, if the Cavalier driver caught the supra driver off guard, he could take him in the short run. If traffic and manuvering was any kind of factor, I'd give the nod to the econmy GT car.

Cool. sounds like you're pretty honest about it.<br>If i was going to buy a Front drive car, or a car that is quick, stock, i would probably get some kind of a Turbo 2.2 Dodge/chrysler...<br>For now i got a 82 corolla, fun little commuter car ,soon will need a clutch and probably new low end bearings..big job

Hey.. I have experienced this one with a MKIII. I would guess MKII would leave the Z24... My best friend had an '88 Cavalier Z24. I had '87 Supra NA. Supra ate Z24 for breakfast many times. It was great! My friend always hated it when we would be cruising along.. and I would just up an leave him and there wasn't anything he could do about it. Well.. Now he has an '87 Supra too...<br><br>I love playing Supra-Tag. My '90 NA, '87 NA & '88T , Mom's '89T, Dad's 86.5 NA, and Brian's (Best Friend) '87 NA. It's nice having a few of these around the house!!!

That little son of a fun was a goer, and my brother drives it today with 140,000 miles on it. I have to say, that's pretty darn good for a performance car- especially considering how I drove the hell out of it.<br><br>Some words of warning if you ever get a chance to buy one of them, check the front core support, the motor mount tends to break it and they EAT tires like you won;t believe. Otherwise, I can;t fault that little car one bit.