I received another Email from Toyota today, this one more exciting than the last:<br><br>

Hmmmm... Dunno if it's different in Canada, but my dealer has always been saying about 3-4 months for mid-June orders.

The wait time for the initial 2002 was always 4 months from june to october.

Peter, is this now THREE emails you have gotten? The initial "you ordered it", the second "the dealer confirmed it", and now this 3-4 month one? I'm jealous!<br><br>&gt;The wait time for the initial 2002 was always 4 &gt;months from june to october. <br><br>Sure, but the web site says (and has said since June 1) expect delivery in Oct-Nov. That is 4-5 months from June 1. Now they are saying 3-4 months. That translates into Sept-Oct.<br><br>Sounds like a small pull in. Of course given one-month granularity, it may mean only a very small change.<br><br>It occurs to me that there are other possible reasons besides producing more hybrids, though:<br><br>1) Fewer dealers than expected decided to get 2002 TRACs. (These are supposed to arrive in Sept according to the web site. If there are fewer than expected, some cars that they thought were going to dealers can be allocated to customers.)<br><br>2) Enough 2001 cancellations have happened that they were able to push the start of production of 2002 models a bit earlier. After all, there is little if any change, so little if any retooling and retraining required. As evidence for this speculation, we recently heard of an 01 delivered with one month wait time. <br><br>3) Pman saw Peter's complaints and had his web site gurus send him a special email :-) :-), or even better for Peter, manually moved him to the head of the list. Hmmmm. Maybe I should try it...Boy, you know, Toyota really rots about not building more Priuses... :-) :-)<br><br>Burns

Confirmation: The roadside assistance and maintenance features carry over as standard for the '02MY Prius. <br>Up

Thanks for the update, PM! Sounds like for once I made a good guess! :-)<br><br>Just waiting for it<br><br>Burns<br>LOWCO2 - NH (P.S. I got the actual plate today!)

My order confirmation email does not have a Oct./Nov delivery date stated anywhere:<br><br>

I've received three e-mails as well.<br><br>Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:03:22 Prius Online Purchase Request Notification<br><br>Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:02:11 Prius Dealer Order Notification<br><br>Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:00:10 -0400 Prius Purchase Request, P.R.# xxxx - Vehicle Reserved<br><br>Saying: You can expect to receive your vehicle in 3-4 months".<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Rick

Rick,<br><br>So are you saying that your third mail message said that you can expect your vehicle in 3-4 months (the reduced wait mail like Peter &lt;mo_mpg&gt; got) and it ALSO said that the vehicle was reserved? Peter, did yours say "reserved"? Someone else got one that said "reserved". Did it also say 3-4 months?<br><br>Trying to figure out which lines to read between...<br><br>Burns (who has only two emails! Waaaah!)<br>LOWCO2 - NH

Burns,<br><br>Saw your message to Rick and Peter. For me, the third email message that I received on 6/14 does say "Vehicle Reserved" but only in the subject line. It also states "You can expect to receive your vehicle in 3-4 months." in the message body.<br><br>Here's the text (edited to remove email addys, etc.):<br><br>

Aha! Thanks Rod. Maybe that is it. I was trying to figure out why some people got a wait time update and some people got a "reserved" message. Perhaps it is just whether people noticed the subject line.<br><br>So here is the question: For those of you who got a third email message with either 3-4 months or 5-6 months (gaaak!), how many did and how many did not have the words "vehicle reserved" in the *subject*? Did anyone actually have those words in the text?<br><br>If there are actually different kinds of mail messages going out, I'd like to "raise the bat signal" and ask Priusman what the different kinds of messages mean. If all messages are the same except for the timing, Pman has already explained that some people will get cars from September production, so I can deal with that.<br><br>Burns<br>LOWCO2 - NH<br>Waiting for (who knows how long) to put it on a Prius!

They probably used the 5-6 months disclosure as a way to get people to take the remaining 2001s.

&gt;Burns: I took another look at the 3rd Email I &gt;received from Toyota concerning my '02 US Prius &gt;order, and the word "reserved" _is_ in the &gt;subject line. Sorry I didn't notice this before. &gt;However, the word "reserved" is _not_ in the &gt;body text of the message.<br><br>Excellent! Thank you. I'm coming to believe that all the 3rd emails are the same with the exception that some say 3-4 months and some say &lt;gasp&gt; 5-6 months. And then there are those who get nothing. &lt;sigh&gt;<br><br>Burns<br>LOWCO2 - NH<br>Just waiting for it

When I ordered my MY2001 Prius in mid-February, the website said to expect end-of-June to mid-July delivery. The sales manager said I'd be lucky to get it by Labor Day. I picked it up on May 29, at least one month "early" according to the website.<br><br>I suspect Toyota is simply providing estimates on the "late side." That way, when we get our cars "early," we're impressed. It's common in all kinds of businesses. Why tell your customer to expect something quickly and then have it be delayed, thus upsetting them?<br><br>I expect you'll all get your MY2002 Prius' much sooner than what the website or your dealers say.

The date in the 2nd email was June 1 2000, 4:49 PM. This is 4:49 PM Eastern.<br><br>SP<br><br>&gt;SP