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Oct 9 2000, 03:40 PM
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For those who are interested, this is a report on
my first long trip (total 400 miles)in my Aqua
Prius, which included going over a 4,800 foot pass
through the Cascade Range to the high desert in Eastern
Oregon this past weekend.<br><br>Throughout the trip
there were 2 riders (my son and I) plus some gear, so
total payload weight was probably 300 lbs. We started
with an odometer reading of 600 miles, so having
finished the break-in period, I decided to drive it
completely normally, including highway speeds averaging
about 70 mph. Average over the mountains was probably
50 mph.<br><br>I am very pleased to say that the
Prius performed very well the entire trip. I tried
accelerating on uphill grades near the summit and was easily
able to hit 70+ mph while the "Current" graph on the
right of the Consumption screen showed peak use at
about 20 MPG, and overall MPG on the last half hour or
so approacing the summit averaged about 35
MPG.<br><br>The fun really began on the downhill slopes,
especially on the return trip when the net elevation loss
was about 4,000 feet from the summit. I got so many
yellow "E" stars I almost passed out! Interestingly,
prior to this trip I did mostly home-school-work
commuting in Portland and averaged about 43.8 MPG. By the
time we got back from the trip the average had
increased to about 48 MPG over a total odometer of 1,000
miles.<br><br>We took the trip to meet up with a group of
university professors and students (mostly electrical
engineers) for a project. It was really fun to watch their
reaction to the Prius because they quickly grasped what an
engineering marvel it is, especially the Hybrid System
"brain". Several thanked me for buying the Prius to enable
Toyota to pursue the technology further, thinking that
it must have cost a mint. When I told them the price
their jaws hit the high desert sagebrush faster than
you could say "regenerative". I think Toyota just
found 6 more customers. (We Prius fans should get
commissions, eh?)<br><br>One last observation. I've been
watching my own reaction to the consumption screen and the
psychology is very clever. We all know about the addictive
nature of TV and computer screens. With the Prius
screen, the bar graph, the running average, the little
yellow stars are all a form of cyber-reward for people
who(like you and me) are motivated to burn less fossil
fuels, and the result is that I really do drive more
conservatively and coast a lot more than I used to in order to
get more rewards. I admit I'm Pavlov's dog. I turn
off the screen sometimes, but in time my curiosity
overcomes and I just have to find out how I'm doing. It's a
great psychological tool to change the modern driver's
behavior.
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Oct 9 2000, 04:13 PM
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I also like the consumption screen. Some of my
highest MPG comes w/o any yellow stars; I guess it means
I'm cruising steady. Haven't decided yet whether to
reset the MPG calculation trip-by-trip,
tankful-by-tankful, or keep a lifetime average.
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Oct 9 2000, 06:58 PM
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Thanks for the great mountain road trip report,
"pulehu_ribs"! We'll be doing a similar trip in our Prius this
coming weekend, when we travel to Lake Tahoe in the
Sierra Nevada mountains on the CA/NV
border.<br><br>Since the elevations reach more than 7,000 feet in the
Tahoe region, the round-trip from the San Francisco
East Bay area should be a great "test" of the Prius
hybrid design. I'll report back after we get return home
on the 21st.<br><br>This week, the first snow
flurries hit the Tahoe region. Just a few inches here and
there, but enough to prompt me to buy some "cable" style
tire chains today. I hope we don't have to use them,
but it's better to be prepared than not.<br><br>-
Peter<br>(I'm considering resetting the Prius consumption
screen just before heading downhill when we leave Tahoe
and head West. It's kinda a cheating way to get a
high all-time average, but I may not be able to
resist! <g>)
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Oct 9 2000, 07:21 PM
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(I'm considering resetting the Prius consumption
screen just before<br> heading downhill when we leave
Tahoe and head West. It's kinda a<br> cheating way to
get a high all-time average, but I may not be able
to<br> resist! <g>) <br><br>Peter - I accidentally
did the same thing during the trip I wrote about. The
screen was a tad dusty so I wiped it but forgot to turn
it off first - duh . . . so it was reset just before
a long downhill glide. For a few minutes my MPG
were off the chart, literally. That was fun. Have fun
on your trip to Tahoe and looking forward to the
report!
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Oct 10 2000, 11:26 PM
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I just got my white Prius last week and took it
on it's first trip my 3rd day. The trip was almost
300 miles of SoCal freeways. Huntington Beach to
Pasadena to Palm Springs and back to HB. The load was 2
people, golf clubs laptop, books and suit
cases.<br><br>Travel speeds were 65 to 80 with about 40 minutes of
rush hour stop and go thrown in. The whole tank
average so far is 43.8 which includes a couple of trips
to work. I should make it to Friday of this week
before needing the second tank.<br><br>The car ran great
at sustained 80mph. At these speeds I was able to
string up about 15 minutes at over 55mpg but I was not
earning any power pills on the screen.<br><br>I found the
car to ride much larger and smoother than you would
expect. Also much quieter inside than my 97 F150
Lariat(now for sale). I kind of miss the gauges, as you
can't tell if things are starting to heat up until they
trip the light which did'nt happen.<br><br>I drive
about 30,000 miles per year and will undoubtedly be
giving high mile updates soon.
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Oct 11 2000, 08:28 AM
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>>>I just got my white Prius last week... The car ran great at
sustained 80mph.<<<<br><br>You didn't know about the break-in period,
or had already put on 600 miles?
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Oct 11 2000, 09:08 PM
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I had about 600 miles on it already. Filled up the first tank since purchase
today. Computer said 43.2 mpg. Actual calculated out to 47.8. That's 4 times
higher than the truck used to be.
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Oct 14 2000, 10:42 PM
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Another mountain vacation road trip:<br><br>Our
Prius and the two of us left El Cerrito, CA (at sea
level on the San Francisco Bay) at around 2:30 PM and
arrived around 6:30 PM in Incline Village, Nevada
(elevation 6,530 ft.) on the north shore of Lake Tahoe.
<br><br>About 45 minutes West of I.V., we travelled up and over
the Donner Summit Pass, which is approx. 7,200 ft.
elevation.<br><br>Our "payload" was 2 adults (approx. 275 lbs. total)
and a _full_ trunk and rear seat: 2 folding deck
chairs, a week's worth of groceries, small ice chest, two
small suitcases, an expresso maker (!), winter coats &
boots, laptop computer, camcorder & camera equipment,
rain gear, umbrellas, books, magazines & mail order
catalogs, soup pot & garlic press, and God knows what
else!<br><br>The first 75 miles of the trip were the last portion
of the Prius' 600 mile break-in period, during which
I carefully keep the speed at 62 MPH or less. This
produced, on a mostly level freeway, approx. 55 MPG
mileage. The air conditioner was on "Auto"/75 degrees, and
the outside temp was around 81 degrees F. At the 600
mile point we let out a big cheer, but only raised the
speed to approx. 65-70 MPH, and watched the mileage
slip to approx. 52 MPG. (No surprise
there.)<br><br>Northwest of Sacramento, CA when we reached the first
foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountain range, and the MPG
gradually started going down, but the Prius had no trouble
keeping up with traffic. I'd say that the same number of
cars were passing us as the number of cars and trucks
we were passing. The MPG settled down to 42 MPG and
stayed there (plus or minus 1 or 2 MPG) for the rest of
the trip as we climbed towards Donner Summit. The air
conditioner was off during this latter part of the trip,
because the outside temps were down in the 60's once we
hit the foothills.<br><br>There was approx. 6 inches
of fresh snow from last week on many of the hills &
mountain sides as we reached the +5K foot level, but US
Route 80 was dry.<br><br>The ride down the mountain
from the Summit down to the lake level was fun! Lots
of "B" mode driving, several "off the chart" 5-min.
segments, and several groups of 2 & 3 yellow "50WH"
stars.<br><br>The final stats for the trip from San Francisco Bay
to Incline Village are: 194 miles @ 44.6 MPG
(according to the Prius' LCD screen.)<br><br>The ride was
very smooth and comfortable! I really appreciated the
continuosly variable automatic transmission driving up those
long grades. Much more pleasant than other automatics
I've driven. Enjoyed listening to tunes on the CD
player -- I like the way it sounds (although new
speakers are always a possibility.)<br><br>We have a great
view of Lake Tahoe from our rental condo. There's a
fire in the fireplace, and the stars are out. Temps
will go down into the low 30's tonite. This will be
our Prius' first night outdoors (poor thing!) and the
coolest temps it's experienced. We don't plan on doing
much driving while we're here -- I'm planning on doing
a lot of sleeping, reading, eating and
relaxing!<br><br>However, I'm already looking forward to our drive home. I
can't wait to do all those long hills in "B" mode! If I
rack up lots of green bars and yellow stars I'll try
to take a photo.<br><br>Oh, and if we get snow (!)
while we're here I plan on driving in it just to try it
out, and I'll let you know how the Prius handles.
Drive safe, everybody!<br><br>- Peter
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Oct 15 2000, 08:26 AM
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Peter -<br><br>Thanks for the trip diary to Lake
Tahoe (you lucky devil!) Sounded very similar to my
trip last weekend over the Cascades, although I think
you drove a little slower and got (of course)
slightly better MPG. I am curious about snow handling so
please do report back if you encounter some.
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