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Mar 14 2003, 02:46 AM
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Hi All , just got my BJ73 cruiser going two weeks ago, new head .
Now i want to do the springs , What hight is a cruisers springs ment
to seat at ?
Is it better to fit new springs or fix the old springs ?
It would be good to get sum ideas.
cheers alistair
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Apr 28 2000, 06:48 AM
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Are you asking about coilovers? I haven't heard of an adjustable spring
before.
CloNeGTS
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Apr 28 2000, 06:26 AM
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are u wantin sumthin like coilovers?
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Apr 28 2000, 10:33 AM
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I think I'm stupid but what the #&*@ are coilovers ... hehe? Thanks guys!
ryan
00 celica gt-s liquid silver
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Apr 28 2000, 10:57 AM
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Coilovers replace the spring/shock set. Instead of the two being seperate
from each other, the shock goes down the middle of the spring. They are
made into a single unit this way. The biggest advantage of a coilover
suspension other than the handling changes is the ability to change the ride
height. The spring shares the upper mount with the shock, the shock then
hooks to the hub, and the spring rests on a threaded plate that screws up
and down on the shock. By adjusting that screw plate you change the ride
height from maybe sitting your car on the ground to stock height.
I have heard that simply changing the height really isn't as easy as
grabbing the wrench and cranking them down. A friend of mine that had
coilovers on his Z24 said it took him 5 hours to get them set up the first
time (just the height on them all, not install). Anyone else have input on
this?
CloNeGTS
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Apr 28 2000, 12:50 PM
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You Know like readjustable springs, for a smoother ride.
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Apr 28 2000, 02:26 PM
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my friend has coilovers on his car and it isnt that hard to raise or lower,
it didnt take as long as that either. i dont know why that is but thats how
his are.
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Apr 28 2000, 07:21 PM
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There is no such thing as simply a "Readjustable Spring". Generally,
replacement springs will be thicker than stock, and stiffer, to give a
better handling feel, provide stability, lower the cars center of gravity,
and privide a Rougher ride. Some progressive rate springs do lower the car
and give better performance without sacrificing straight ahead driving
comfort or "smoothness", but when cornering or driving aggressively, they
become progressively (thus the name) stiffer to increase handling. The only
way to get adjustable ride height is to go with a Coil-Over kit that
integrates an adjustable shock/strut with spring and replaces the entire
factory shock/strut assembly. Coil Over kits are then threaded to allow the
owner to adjust ride height, and to some degree, ride comfort. Coil Over
kits usually run about $400 give or take, which is more than springs alone,
but if you replace springs and shocks/struts, the price will be very close
to simply going with a coil over kit.
Chris
GTSOne
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Feb 7 2001, 05:29 PM
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Mine had that greasy stuff on it. It must just be protection.
Dont know about the springs.
Mark
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Feb 8 2001, 02:38 AM
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jem did his springs and it seemed to handle ok, mine are standard and and 100k mikes feel ook, must admit i've never noticed any major weight shift or body roll! would reccommend changing your anti roll bar bushes for poly bushes from fensport. does your tems go hard under hard acceleration?
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Feb 8 2001, 02:45 AM
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I think I mentioned it before.... The springs definitely firmed up the ride in Medium & Hard settings but in the soft setting they could become a little uncomfortable over country roads...especially with a load of people in the car - being progressive springs, the more weight you put on them the more resistance they create and so additional vehicle weight meant the spring was quite strong...which the shocks didn't handle too well.
Depends what you want from the car, if you want to run on hard suspension and want excellent handling, yeah, get the springs. If you want comfort over bumpy irish country roads, don't bother.
Jem
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Feb 8 2001, 04:46 AM
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I dont mind losing some ride quality for the sake of handling or reducing
weight transfer, the rolls not excessive i think im just too fussy, every
car previous to this ive uprated the shocks/springs, the celi handles really
well no sudden on the limit shocks(waitng for some 4wheel steer problems)
but it seem a bit wallowy, hopefully this w/e ill try that tems overide mod,
I've come to the conclusion thta the shocks are ok so thats why im wondering
about the springs.
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Feb 8 2001, 04:56 AM
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yes the tems goes hard under acceleration but then drops to norm when things
level out i kinda thought the uprated springs would reduce the shift a
little without the car being upset by mismathing springs/shocks, I,ve
replaced the standard rear roll bar bushes with toy parts but i'll uprate
the front with fensport, does it make a big difference?
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Feb 8 2001, 06:09 AM
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why wait to the weekend? steal a paper clip out of work and stick it in the
holes, 30 second job
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Feb 8 2001, 06:13 AM
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the poly bushes seemed a lot quieter, definitely less body roll.
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Feb 8 2001, 06:39 AM
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poly bushes it is, altough in my experience shaved bushes seemed more
sensitive to handling changes..hehe
sorry to lower the tone but its nearly the w/e
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Feb 8 2001, 07:03 AM
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and if you get a burning smell and your ABS light starts flashing don't blame Al....
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Feb 8 2001, 06:41 AM
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what do ya mean , can i override the tems thru the diag box????
TELL ME PLEASE, I'll do it now then...
Yours in anticipation Fergal
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Feb 8 2001, 08:58 AM
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